Going Lighter Reference

I’ve uploaded a word document file that gives a kind of ‘reference’ for a TGO Challenge.

There’s a little bit of lightweight thinking going on here, but it is a comfortable kit collection. It’s not difficult to shave some real weight of this list and you can make those judgements yourself. For example, it is based on an Akto – not the lightest tent but a standard for the Challenge.

Basic pack weight is a little over 8 kilograms, with another 1 kilogram being worn.

It doesn’t include food, water, poles, etc.

A Reference Kit List for the Going Lighter Guide


  1. Robin Evans says:

    Gas cannisters don’t count as base weight as they’re consumable (so Colin told me!). North Face sandals seem a bit heavy. Gap flip flops 200g or Nike Mayfly running shoes 270g, but they are a violent yellow, so you may need a style by-pass and a pair of sunglasses (+100g);-)

  2. They DO count as weight – especially when you have to carry them 🙂

    OK, the weight drops down but it is something to think about.

  3. Robin Evans says:

    I guess the theory in not counting gas cannisters is that the weight will vary depending on the length of the trip, so to compare weights consistently they should be excluded. If you exclude that and have lighter sandals, you’d get quite close to 7kg. For me that’s the magic figure as it means with 3 days food and fuel, you can squeak under 10kg total carried. It’s a shame that the new TN Laser Photon appears to be an “occasional” tent rather than a true backpacking tent. Are you tempted by the Laser Comp?

  4. True. I’ve only used the Challenge as a ‘reference’ point for this series of posts. But length of time, etc, does effect things. In a couple of weeks I’m off for a weekend with Colin Ibbotson who’s likely to carry his own Espit Stove which probably is so light it’ll float up the mountains on it’s own. I’ll probably take a Whitebox with a small amount of fuel,

    As for shelters, that’s coming next.

    I looked hard at the Competition and almost bought one when they first came out. I then spent time looking at them on campsites and I noticed that most people using them were much smaller than me. I wondered whether they would work for 6 footers.

    On this year’s Challenge Jeff Cracknell let me lie inside of his competition and I was surprised as to how much room there was. I do like the space on the Challenge though and have been happy to stick with the Akto. It’s also interesting to see Chris Townsend sticking with the Akto – I think he feels it is better up high.

    The Competition is still tempting. It’s made out of the same materials as my Solar 2.2. and that is certainly robust enough.

    I’d love to take a tarp on the Challenge but am just not sure. I guess one problem might be that it would dictate a low route and after two years of middling route I’d like to go higher next year.

    Still, choices, choices.

    The Akto hasn’t been out since the ’96 Challenge. It might make it to the Lakes next week, but I suspect the tarp is going to win.

    Finally, you’re right about the 10 kilogram mark. Get below that and everything feels much more comfortable.

  5. David says:

    Regarding space in the Competition: I got inside one for the first time this weekend and although it was fine when sitting up, I couldn’t stretch out fully when lying down – not good (I’m 5’11)! I’ll be sticking to the Akto until something better comes along, even though it’s heavier.

  6. Dan Goldenberg says:

    Hi Andy,
    Regarding the gas cannister and base weight, the best way to handle that is to put the weight of the empty canister as the base weight, and the net weight of the gas as your consumable. For example a full Snow Peak gigapower 110 cannister weighs about 200 grams. 90 grams is the actual cannister weight, and 110 is the gas weight. So I use 90 grams in my baseweight and 110 in my consumable weight. This is more accurate since you might go out with a less than full cannister on a short trip.

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